Tuesday, July 6, 2010

Rank sticker... nay or yah?

You know what I've been seeing a lot of lately? Rank stickers on cars.

I'm undecided on these things.

I get the point of the full bird or the General's stars since there are reserved spots for those ranks on post {or base} and well.... your a General. But in most other cases I have to admit I lean towards not getting the point of them.

Part of me says, hey good on ya, be proud to be a Lance Corporal, the other part of me says, hey who cares. And I don't mean that in an insulting way, I mean that in the your rank is your rank.

And for that matter, seeing as how I treat everyone with respect on base, as I do anywhere, does it really matter to me if you're a Captain? Congratulations on working hard {although lets all admit that attaining rank, sadly, does not always correspond with actually doing your job or being an all around stellar person but rather your number in the deli line but that's a side note}

Do you really need it on your car?

I think sometimes it matters also where it is on the car. On the back of your car right by your Marine Corps emblem sticker seems less obnoxious then putting it right by your sticker to get on base. Does the civilian gate guard really care if you're a Corporal or a Gunny? {For the other branches those would be E4 and E7 respectively}

Especially since with the exception of the nice full bird or star stickers the other ones just aren't meant to be placed up near the base stickers so they seem awkward and out of place.

Not to sound jaded or pissy or anything, I'm just puzzled by the rank on the car thing. You worked to earn it, but, again I find myself wondering why is it there?

When flyboy was promoted this last time I got him a rank sticker as a joke. If looks could kill I wouldn't be here penning this post.

Flyboy tends to be a work is work, I am who I am, rank is my rank and lets leave it at that kinda guy. He doesn't see the need to advertise being a Marine {although I keep trying to explain that the high and tight is a bit of a giveaway} let alone plaster his rank on his car.

What are your thoughts? Is your husband's {or yours for that matter} rank on the car?

And as I sit here ready to hit publish I wonder if I should just scrap this post. Is this going to turn into some uniform purse post that lives on forever? I'm going with my gut and hitting publish.....

30 comments:

  1. Um yeah, ironically, we had this conversation over the weekend while on vacation after we had seen a car with a rank sticker on it. I think it is beyond stupid. Like you, I understand the point if you are a General or what have you. But aside from advertising that you deserve a designated parking space, what purpose does it serve? I think you should be proud of the rank you have earned, but um...do I have a sticker on my car that says "Juris Doctor" or something similar? Um, no.

    But hey, I feel a lot less passionately about that than the women who drive a car covered with stickers advertising that they love their SGT or Lieutenant or whatnot. Really?????

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  2. Nay.

    Actually, in our anti-terrorism training, they tell us it's a bad idea to post it all over your car that you are even IN the military.

    That and your rank is just another piece of the puzzle in the "stalking" and "stealing your identity" games.

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  3. no rank-flashing in our family. my hubs is also "it's what i do, it's a job." i've not even been to a promotion ceremony for him. (though the next time he makes rank, i'll probably go just because it seems like its time). and, not to tick anyone off, but it annoys the poo out of me when people are displaying rank stickers for one of the ranks that are basically handed out if you don't get in trouble (in the air force e1-e4 and o1-o3 are basically freebies... e5 is getting that way). sure, i'm proud of all of our troops, but lets remember you worked for it, i'm a bit more lenient when it's a rank you have to earn.

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  4. Yet another one I've never run across! I had never even heard of a uniform purse until you mentioned it here, and I've never seen a rank sticker in my life. Maybe I just dont pay attention to stuff like that? We live on a mega-base so they must be around.

    Seems kind of narcissistic to me, "Hey! Everybody look at me! Look at my rank! I am IMPORTANT!"....or not. J and I don't personally feel that you're too "important" in the Air Force until you make E-7 and up. The rest of 'em can be just like you said- you stay in for 15 years and they eventually just practically hand it to you even if you're a complete idiot :P

    My husband sounds like yours. He'd never allow one of those on our car. He doesn't like to draw attention to his military career either. He refused to wear his blues when we got married and when I asked him to come to one of our church services back home for Memorial Day one year in uniform (they ask service members to come in uniform to be recognized by the congregation that day) he looked at me like I had asked him to chew glass. His answer to that stuff is always, "If you're doing this for attention and 'atta boys' then you're in the service for the wrong reasons".

    Know what else bugs me? (I thought of this after your pet peeve post awhile back and it kind of goes along with the uniform purse thing) I really dont like it when wives/girlfriends dress up all slutty in their husband's uniform and have professional pictures taken all sex-kitten like with their boobs and rear hanging out. It really, REALLY bugs me. SO disrespectful! I dont think anyone should be wearing that uniform that hasn't earned it (I'm sorry, marrying a guy that went through boot camp doesn't earn it for you.)- and it certainly should not be worn in such an undignified manner. I mean, is it all a big joke that men and women are *dying* in that uniform overseas right now? Ugh. Why don't we just take a big poo on the uniform too while we're at it? Ran across that twice last week and cringed both times.

    *ducks head and waits for hate mail to start rolling in*

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  5. Yet another one I've never run across! I had never even heard of a uniform purse until you mentioned it here, and I've never seen a rank sticker in my life. Maybe I just dont pay attention to stuff like that? We live on a mega-base so they must be around.

    Seems kind of narcissistic to me, "Hey! Everybody look at me! Look at my rank! I am IMPORTANT!"....or not. J and I don't personally feel that you're too "important" in the Air Force until you make E-7 and up. The rest of 'em can be just like you said- you stay in for 15 years and they eventually just practically hand it to you even if you're a complete idiot :P

    My husband sounds like yours. He'd never allow one of those on our car. He doesn't like to draw attention to his military career either. He refused to wear his blues when we got married and when I asked him to come to one of our church services back home for Memorial Day one year in uniform (they ask service members to come in uniform to be recognized by the congregation that day) he looked at me like I had asked him to chew glass. His answer to that stuff is always, "If you're doing this for attention and 'atta boys' then you're in the service for the wrong reasons".

    Know what else bugs me? (I thought of this after your pet peeve post awhile back and it kind of goes along with the uniform purse thing) I really dont like it when wives/girlfriends dress up all slutty in their husband's uniform and have professional pictures taken all sex-kitten like with their boobs and rear hanging out. It really, REALLY bugs me. SO disrespectful! I dont think anyone should be wearing that uniform that hasn't earned it (I'm sorry, marrying a guy that went through boot camp doesn't earn it for you.)- and it certainly should not be worn in such an undignified manner. I mean, is it all a big joke that men and women are *dying* in that uniform overseas right now? Ugh. Why don't we just take a big poo on the uniform too while we're at it? Ran across that twice last week and cringed both times.

    *ducks head and waits for hate mail to start rolling in*

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  6. I don't get why an E4 wants to tell the world he/she is an E4, Im so happy that like you, they are proud. Be proud, man! Im not into broadcasting what rank my man is nor is one of the first questions out of my mouth when I meet someone new, what rank is your spouse? I personally don't care. Want to be my friend, be my friend. Didn't think it mattered what my husband was, but hey, if I need to fill out an application, that's fine I guess. Like your husband, mine doesn't broadcast that he is in the army. He is embarrased when people thank him for his service, he hates the 1 army t-shirt that I wear, and he doesn't like any sticker on our car, which is why we don't own any (minus our decals).

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  7. My husband's rank will NEVER be on any car we own. I'm annoyed enough that his rank is on my ID card!

    Now that we're overseas, we no longer have a DoD sticker whose color announces whether he's enlisted or an officer, which was another peeve of mine.

    There could be perfectly innocent and good-intentioned reasons for showing off rank, but none are coming to mind.

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  8. I agree... I can't stand it. My husbands rank is NOT on either of our cars. This kind of stuff drives me crazy. I once met a wife who introduced herself to me by saying, "Hi, my husband is a Staff Sgt, what's yours?" Once I saw a rank placed in a license plate (like FRST SGT or something). Who care what rank you are? It's part of your job, and I absolutely agree on the rank does not always equal hard work. So true!

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  9. My husband does not put his rank on either of our cars. Frankly, I don't see a reason to put it on there unless of course as you said you are a full bird or higher. But I have seen E2 rank sticker on a car and it just makes me kind of chuckle, I mean obviously they are proud of it, great! But seriously? No.

    As far as what Keri said above, I agree. I can't stand it when I see pictures like that. For numerous reasons, I don't like seeing pictures like that, my husband earned his uniform so why are they dissing it like that, and ewww...my husbands uniforms are still kinda gross even after scrubbing them and washing them so why would I want to get nakey pics taken in them? It also annoys me when I see the mini sets of ACUs. I don't understand those. Go get your kid a t-shirt that says their daddy/mommy is a soldier or whatnot. No need to wear those mini uniforms.

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  10. I have seen alot of rank stickers on cars that are now where near a base as if it was there loved ones rank. My man bought me one for the car. I am puzzled as where to put it, but as for me I am proud of his rank. We know how hard they work for their ranks. I think the spouses and family memebers are more proud of their ranks. UGH uniforms, people really need to learn how to put on together. So many are looking bad and I just want to run up to them and be like "Seriously?" and fix it.

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  11. I understand this one, my husband drills at a Reserve Center, they only have a person at the gate on drill weekends, usually an E4 or lower, before they check ID's, if they know the person is someone they're supposed to salute, they will do that before checking their ID. Some have gotten really mad at them for not saluting because the people at the gate couldn't see their rank! Also at that Reserve Center, some of the others have reserve spots, not necessarily Generals. By having a rank sticker on the car, they generally have a good idea if the person in the spot is who's supposed to be there or not.

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  12. I'm so glad I'm not the only one that gets annoyed by the women who show off their husband's rank on their car. I see a lot of, "Proud Wife of a Chief, "Chief's Wife," or "He may be chief, but I run things. If a guy wants to plaster it all over his car--whatev--he's worked hard to get where he's at in his career, but I don't understand why a spouse needs to put it all over the place.

    When I first met my husband, I asked him if I had to get one of those stickers that says, "I heart my sailor" to date him. He started choking on his beer at the thought of me sporting Navy stickers on my car. Being a military spouse is not what defines me as a person and is it really that important to let everyone on base know that my husband makes more money than yours?

    Agh! I hate the rank stickers! lol But I'm going to stop ranting so I don't take over your blog post. :)

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  13. I'm in the anti-rank stickers group. And I don't have a good reason other than I think it's stupid. I totally do an unlady-like snort whenever I see those stickers... it's an involuntary response.
    I'm not real big on knowing everyone's rank - like you said, everyone is respected. If Daniel hadn't been the one to start and name my blog then I would have had a more ambiguous name, for sure.

    We have an simple Air Force sticker on our truck because we are PROUD to be in the Air Force. And that's all that will ever be plastered anywhere.

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  14. We don't even have college stickers on our car. My hubby is too paranoid.

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  15. i do agree about the rank stickers, but re: the little kid camo mentioned above - i think thats super cute <>

    my son LOVES all things "papa" (what he calls the ACU pattern), for obvious reasons and i think would be over the moon for his own little outfit :)

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  16. I can't stand it! I see no reason for it, Doc loves the fact that he can have longer hair and not look like he's in the army. He doesn't even come and go in uniform every day. I wanted to put a sticker on my car that reps his unit but he wont even "let" me do that.

    He could tell everyone I'm Doc and I'm a Special Operations NCO who has done XYZ overseas but he's really just Doc.

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  17. That's a big nay.
    Hubby does not do rank stickers. He is bashful when people shake his hand and say "thanks". He is a "this is my job, not who I am" kinda man.

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  18. HAH. One of my husband's guys is SO sick of guys "posting their resume" on the backs of their cars (rank stickers, ranger, infantry, 10th mountain, etc stickers) that he went in, printed off his ERB, crossed out his social and taped it to the back of his truck to make a point.

    I just about fell over laughing. Long story short, we're not "rank sticker" people! :D

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  19. This is strange. We just had this conversation last week because Dan saw one of those and thought it was ridiculous. Yes, I call him LT Dan, no that isn't his rank, it's just his nickname because he reminds me sometimes of LT Dan and his name is Dan. But anyway...I have an Army wife license plate holder and that is all besides my American flag. I wouldn't have the Army wife plate holder but it was a present from my mother-in-law (yeah, what am I gonna do). We don't do rank, to me, that just isn't the important part and Dan just did his job he would say.

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  20. OK I agree with most of the above comments about the rank stickers being stupid - but to me, they are also impractical - unless whatever rank you are RIGHT NOW is the rank you plan to be for the entire life of your car? My hubby has already changed rank twice just since I bought my car 3 1/2 years ago!

    And the little kid camo outfits are A-DOR-A-BLE....if they weren't so expensive, the baby I am carrying now would already own a set. :) Sorry.

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  21. Hey it's Cassandra from Life as an Army Duck. I thought I would let you know that I have moved my blog to untildeathdousparty.blogspot.com and will be posting there from now on :-)

    I'm with you on the stickers.. I personally think it's a little weird when people want to share this sort of info with the world..

    I already get annoyed when the mechanic puts his work sticker on my car lol

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  22. Those stickers boggle my mind! Wierdos! hahah :)

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  23. That crap gives me hives. And as far as Einstein's concerned...well, let's just say there is nothing on our cars that connects us to the AF, much less his rank. (The AF doesn't use DOD decals anymore.)

    Also, this made me think of Einstein's reaction to some friends who were all psyched that he got promoted to 1LT (they're civilians). He said, "Do you want to know what I had to do to get promoted?" and then he mimed checking his pulse.

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  24. I'm all for not putting anything on the car.

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  25. I don't have much to say to support my opinion, personal decision would to not sticker up my car with anything, including these.

    But the timing of your post is funny, just over the weekend I was driving behind a car and looking at this circle with ACU pattern and double gold bars and thinking "hmmmm, what is tha....no, it isn't really that is it?" It was just the strange circle sitting by itself on the bumper and has been confirmed.

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  26. I haven't really seen these rank stickers, but my first thought is that it's a little showy. I certainly wouldn't want one on my car!

    Also, maybe I'm paranoid, but from an OPSEC perspective, it doesn't seem to be the smartest thing.

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  27. Not everyone with a Toughest Job in the {insert branch here} sticker really thinks they have the toughest job.
    Not everyone with a uniform purse on their arm is trying to "wear their husband's rank".
    Posts like this are good though- they are a reminder that no matter what you do, from lovin' your Sgt. to dressing up your baby, there will always be another military spouse out there to chuckle, snort or roll their eyes at you- that will call you stupid, disrespectful, and weird.

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  28. Sorry to the MRS., I should have said COMMENTS on posts like this, my comment wasn't directed at you.

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  29. This made me giggle a bit.

    I agree 100% WHO CARES! Its a job...

    But I do kinda bust with pride that my hubby has his "Veteran" plates on his car. Rank aside it only has the emblem and branch of service on it..

    And I had my hubby weigh in too.

    He says "What ever you want its cool"

    I asked "Would you display your rank on your car?"

    **dirty look**"No"

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  30. I don't do the rank stickers either. I don't see the point. I keep trying to get a Phi Mu one and Marine Corps one, but he won't even ok that. No PII for us. :(

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